desi3933
05-11 05:16 PM
we are talking about inclusion logic here. Not the exclusion logic.
I do see in sec 203 how some one becomes eligible for "eb quota". I dont see ebdependents there. I see only eb primary.
I am sorry, I am not interested to carry this debate forward for the fun of debating. I strongly urge you to read sec 203. Thanks for understanding.
Read for yourself.
INA 203(d) Treatment of family members
A spouse or child as defined in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 1101(b)(1) of this title shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section, be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
This means that if primary beneficiary is using visa number from EB(2) classification then dependent(s) will also be using same classification as primary beneficiary (i.e. EB(2) in this example).
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I do see in sec 203 how some one becomes eligible for "eb quota". I dont see ebdependents there. I see only eb primary.
I am sorry, I am not interested to carry this debate forward for the fun of debating. I strongly urge you to read sec 203. Thanks for understanding.
Read for yourself.
INA 203(d) Treatment of family members
A spouse or child as defined in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 1101(b)(1) of this title shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section, be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
This means that if primary beneficiary is using visa number from EB(2) classification then dependent(s) will also be using same classification as primary beneficiary (i.e. EB(2) in this example).
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gcnirvana
05-09 12:43 AM
We had a discussion about the very topic not long ago as part of IV Spotlight Topic Series. Check out this thread http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4118&highlight=spotlight
Will someone please respond ?
Thank you.
Will someone please respond ?
Thank you.
jgh_res
12-16 09:54 AM
Meditation soothes your mind. It is scientifically proven.
Time magazine reports where doctors studied Buddhist’s and you can find all the reports at:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030804-471136,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101030804/#
Guys, It is all scientific.
Look at the bottom link and click on tab "Wave Change".
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101030804/om/
Been in the US since 1998, have an EB-2 PD of 2001, have played by the rules all along. Still no GC... And, the dates are going back to 2000 from the new year.. I've lost hopes...
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
Time magazine reports where doctors studied Buddhist’s and you can find all the reports at:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030804-471136,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101030804/#
Guys, It is all scientific.
Look at the bottom link and click on tab "Wave Change".
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101030804/om/
Been in the US since 1998, have an EB-2 PD of 2001, have played by the rules all along. Still no GC... And, the dates are going back to 2000 from the new year.. I've lost hopes...
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
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manja
02-01 08:56 PM
Contributed $50.
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SunnySurya
08-18 01:14 PM
This issue cannot be solved through Lawsuit. What are the other alternatives?
Didn't someone took up the EB3->EB2 porting issue already; can't this issue be clubed along with it? ek teer se do shikar!!
Didn't someone took up the EB3->EB2 porting issue already; can't this issue be clubed along with it? ek teer se do shikar!!
paragpujara
08-08 11:26 AM
I am in the same boat. I got Notice welcoming new PR email on 8/5 and nothing after that.
Thanks.
Actually i am in the same exact position as the OP and was wondering after approximately how many days, do we receive an approval notice sent email?
I got Notice welcoming new PR email on 8/5 and nothing after that.
Thanks and Good luck to all!
Thanks.
Actually i am in the same exact position as the OP and was wondering after approximately how many days, do we receive an approval notice sent email?
I got Notice welcoming new PR email on 8/5 and nothing after that.
Thanks and Good luck to all!
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cjagtap
11-21 10:17 AM
Sreeanne is correct. We had one friend who died in 9-11 and his wife and kid got visa to stay back for few years until she finished her paperwork. Plan for 2-3 options for your family, and just dont depend on continuing GC.
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hsingh82
02-24 01:29 PM
Sent a check of $50. I myself have moved away from GC and going E-2 visa route based on my wife's canadian citizenship.
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vactorboy29
02-03 02:07 PM
Since we are in a fighting mood, I will throw some fuel to the fire :) :)
To conclude:
If reservations stays; 25% upper caste can enjoy 50% of resources.
If reservation system goes away due to uplifting of backward classes; 25% of upper caste will have to satisfy themselves with only 25% of resources.
================================================== ====
Brother your assumption is flawed if someone come under reservation category they get their guaranteed reservation seat (on their merit basis in that class) if reservation % is fulfilled as per rule then their application goes to open category. That means 50% resources is for everyone in India.
This was happened few years back to get admission in one of top Medical school after scoring more than 92% was not able to get to desired top medical school but one of his friend who had just scored 58% was able to get in top notch medical school. Now this remind me similar situation what was happened 50 years before. Now making matter worst student who had got 92% was belonging to very middle class or you can say poor family but his friend was belonging to class one gazetted officer�s family (I would classify them upper middle class).
I think reservation was required in past to up-lift backward class and give them justice in system but now situation is change drastically we see people from all class is on same page .if someone wants to argue on this that is fine. In real sense if we need reservation then it should be on economics basis everyone should file taxes and they should get reservation accordingly with merits .In this way government will get more revenue and on the whole we will have fair justice to everyone (all cast )and this will provide better visibility what is happening to normal families. Now some will debate how we can avoid fraud for reporting low income then hey that is what government should be doing, proving infrastructure and enforcing rule of law other than that government has no business in dictating which cast is upper cast or lower cast.
Now real question pose by the other users here are we better-off here or back home? I think we always indulge in material benefits but there are other aspect of life you cannot put face value on it .What matter is the most are you Happy? What is your ultimate goal of life? What is the most important thing you want to have in your life? What is the most irritating thing you cannot overlook or make you uncomfortable? On top of all these key questions what are tools /resources available to you to address all these likes dislikes. So let us say if you are shooting for quality life then define what must have for that life and to get those you may have to bite bullet and compromise on some of those. If you can find middle ground some where there then we call those people happy people or successful people. So life is about making right choice all the time as per your own situations. When we are in this fine-tuning process we can always use help from our resources, friends, relative, culture, God, Money and our own intellectual.
To conclude:
If reservations stays; 25% upper caste can enjoy 50% of resources.
If reservation system goes away due to uplifting of backward classes; 25% of upper caste will have to satisfy themselves with only 25% of resources.
================================================== ====
Brother your assumption is flawed if someone come under reservation category they get their guaranteed reservation seat (on their merit basis in that class) if reservation % is fulfilled as per rule then their application goes to open category. That means 50% resources is for everyone in India.
This was happened few years back to get admission in one of top Medical school after scoring more than 92% was not able to get to desired top medical school but one of his friend who had just scored 58% was able to get in top notch medical school. Now this remind me similar situation what was happened 50 years before. Now making matter worst student who had got 92% was belonging to very middle class or you can say poor family but his friend was belonging to class one gazetted officer�s family (I would classify them upper middle class).
I think reservation was required in past to up-lift backward class and give them justice in system but now situation is change drastically we see people from all class is on same page .if someone wants to argue on this that is fine. In real sense if we need reservation then it should be on economics basis everyone should file taxes and they should get reservation accordingly with merits .In this way government will get more revenue and on the whole we will have fair justice to everyone (all cast )and this will provide better visibility what is happening to normal families. Now some will debate how we can avoid fraud for reporting low income then hey that is what government should be doing, proving infrastructure and enforcing rule of law other than that government has no business in dictating which cast is upper cast or lower cast.
Now real question pose by the other users here are we better-off here or back home? I think we always indulge in material benefits but there are other aspect of life you cannot put face value on it .What matter is the most are you Happy? What is your ultimate goal of life? What is the most important thing you want to have in your life? What is the most irritating thing you cannot overlook or make you uncomfortable? On top of all these key questions what are tools /resources available to you to address all these likes dislikes. So let us say if you are shooting for quality life then define what must have for that life and to get those you may have to bite bullet and compromise on some of those. If you can find middle ground some where there then we call those people happy people or successful people. So life is about making right choice all the time as per your own situations. When we are in this fine-tuning process we can always use help from our resources, friends, relative, culture, God, Money and our own intellectual.
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dval_dpal
09-10 08:51 AM
Eb3-I would move much slower then snail's pace.
My PD is Jan 04, so I am not sure how many years would it take for my PD to be current. :(
god knows how many years...but one thing i'm sure for my GC will come after 12 Years ...
My son is 6 years old on this 12th Sep 2009 and he will file for my GC at the age of 18...
till then no worry ...enjoy with kids....
thanks
PD: EB3 India June 2004.
My PD is Jan 04, so I am not sure how many years would it take for my PD to be current. :(
god knows how many years...but one thing i'm sure for my GC will come after 12 Years ...
My son is 6 years old on this 12th Sep 2009 and he will file for my GC at the age of 18...
till then no worry ...enjoy with kids....
thanks
PD: EB3 India June 2004.
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Green.Tech
02-26 10:20 AM
Please see my answers in BOLD. Please do not assume I am mad to put in BOLD. This is just to make my point more VISIBLE.
Finally one question to ALL.
If we see a good action plan from IV Core and a date, how much are you willing to contribute.I am now ready to do $2000.00 instead of $500.00 as I said before. I am not very well-off to do this much (my friends are, though). But this looks to be nothing when compared to the loss many faced waiting 5-10- years. So I will do.
Feel free. Remember how it feels like if you get it. and dont forget how much you are spending now for different immigration related issues. How much are you ready to contribute to IV.
Ok. Time out suriajay12.
Tell me one thing - Why do you expect IV core to spoonfeed everything to you and your friends. If you and your friends are raring to go and do something for the retrogressed community, why not come forward with ideas and show some efforts, instead of just harping on a forum with a bundle of dollars in your hand! Remember, IV is made up of you and me, and it's you and me who can make all the difference. It's very easy to sit on the sidelines and talk. And one more thing - "Have a positive attitude" about everything (life, IV, GC etc) and you will notice how much your point of view will change for better.
The best advice I have for you is to join your state chapter because IV does lot of its planning and strategy implementation behind the scenes. That way you will know more about IV's current and future plans, and will be able to contribute in a positive manner.
Finally one question to ALL.
If we see a good action plan from IV Core and a date, how much are you willing to contribute.I am now ready to do $2000.00 instead of $500.00 as I said before. I am not very well-off to do this much (my friends are, though). But this looks to be nothing when compared to the loss many faced waiting 5-10- years. So I will do.
Feel free. Remember how it feels like if you get it. and dont forget how much you are spending now for different immigration related issues. How much are you ready to contribute to IV.
Ok. Time out suriajay12.
Tell me one thing - Why do you expect IV core to spoonfeed everything to you and your friends. If you and your friends are raring to go and do something for the retrogressed community, why not come forward with ideas and show some efforts, instead of just harping on a forum with a bundle of dollars in your hand! Remember, IV is made up of you and me, and it's you and me who can make all the difference. It's very easy to sit on the sidelines and talk. And one more thing - "Have a positive attitude" about everything (life, IV, GC etc) and you will notice how much your point of view will change for better.
The best advice I have for you is to join your state chapter because IV does lot of its planning and strategy implementation behind the scenes. That way you will know more about IV's current and future plans, and will be able to contribute in a positive manner.
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jsb
08-29 10:16 AM
Latest update from USCIS - TSC still at 6/30
Has anybody from those who filed at NSC on July 2 (I-140 at TSC), lately called USCIS? NSC has moved for receipting to 7/27, but TSC is still at 6/30
Has anybody from those who filed at NSC on July 2 (I-140 at TSC), lately called USCIS? NSC has moved for receipting to 7/27, but TSC is still at 6/30
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simple1
05-02 01:31 PM
The derivative files using primary's PD. read all posts in this thread, the I485 form and INA. it is clearly in the law.
This thread is discussing about quota. not PD.
In essence none will be affected ( ofcourse EBdependents and existing FB2A may get delayed slightly , that is ok)
I think the FB2A category has a cutoff date of 08OCT04 according to the current bulletin.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4454.html
This thread is discussing about quota. not PD.
In essence none will be affected ( ofcourse EBdependents and existing FB2A may get delayed slightly , that is ok)
I think the FB2A category has a cutoff date of 08OCT04 according to the current bulletin.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4454.html
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BharatPremi
11-21 01:43 PM
Gurus,
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
Mehul,
As all expressed, I was too uttlerly shocked to my guts and went blank for a while. Obviously do not know the answer and feeling helpless not be able to show you the path. But be calm and confident. I pray to GOD for giving you and your family a strength to deal with this shocking reality. I hope your lawyer can help you out of this. As far as medical diagnostic and treatment is concerned, I would request you to have second opinion from best doctors in India.
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
Mehul,
As all expressed, I was too uttlerly shocked to my guts and went blank for a while. Obviously do not know the answer and feeling helpless not be able to show you the path. But be calm and confident. I pray to GOD for giving you and your family a strength to deal with this shocking reality. I hope your lawyer can help you out of this. As far as medical diagnostic and treatment is concerned, I would request you to have second opinion from best doctors in India.
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Raju
07-20 10:43 AM
I pledge $100.
Can we set a target of $100,000. Lets not forget other IV core too. Even they might have spent money. We should set up an administrative account.
Also can we send emails to everyone like the action alert, so that more people can join?
Good points...
Can we set a target of $100,000. Lets not forget other IV core too. Even they might have spent money. We should set up an administrative account.
Also can we send emails to everyone like the action alert, so that more people can join?
Good points...
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TheOmbudsman
10-25 09:10 PM
"The market has a way of regulating itself".
That is probably the most absurd thing said in this forum.
Purgan, please do some basic research and you will see you are plain wrong. There is no way you will see your dream coming true. Govenment intervention when it comes to regulate the influx of foreign labor is everywhere. It is controlled. You just allow less or more people coming in and that is fair. If you allow the gates of a third world country to open for good and flood this with programmers to a point where you would be making $10/hour, nobody sane wants to get downgraded to that level. Foreigners with a funny accent like us would be competing for jobs. Probably employers would love and exploited people in the third world countries would love that, but I have to tell you things don't work that way.
Similar polls were conducted by Zogby, CNN, etc. I outlined other evidences there. Only individuals with an open mind can read between the lines though.
when american's from such third rate schools are not getting jobs, do you seriously think foreigners with their funny accents and relatively poor English communication skills (I'm Indian and can tell you its still a second language to me) can get jobs??
The market has a way of regulating itself. As someone mentioned above, there were a a lot of H1 space available from 2001-03. But it never got filled because there were simply not enough jobs. Lets not try to set up govenment intervention here....let the free market decide....that is what made this country great.
btw, NumbersuSA, FAIR and other restrictionist organizations have zero credibility because they oppose even legal immigration.
That poll....don't impress me much...
That is probably the most absurd thing said in this forum.
Purgan, please do some basic research and you will see you are plain wrong. There is no way you will see your dream coming true. Govenment intervention when it comes to regulate the influx of foreign labor is everywhere. It is controlled. You just allow less or more people coming in and that is fair. If you allow the gates of a third world country to open for good and flood this with programmers to a point where you would be making $10/hour, nobody sane wants to get downgraded to that level. Foreigners with a funny accent like us would be competing for jobs. Probably employers would love and exploited people in the third world countries would love that, but I have to tell you things don't work that way.
Similar polls were conducted by Zogby, CNN, etc. I outlined other evidences there. Only individuals with an open mind can read between the lines though.
when american's from such third rate schools are not getting jobs, do you seriously think foreigners with their funny accents and relatively poor English communication skills (I'm Indian and can tell you its still a second language to me) can get jobs??
The market has a way of regulating itself. As someone mentioned above, there were a a lot of H1 space available from 2001-03. But it never got filled because there were simply not enough jobs. Lets not try to set up govenment intervention here....let the free market decide....that is what made this country great.
btw, NumbersuSA, FAIR and other restrictionist organizations have zero credibility because they oppose even legal immigration.
That poll....don't impress me much...
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optimist578
03-08 02:04 PM
I and my wife have been SCREAMING, FIGHTING for over four years now. We are now so frustrated that we have EVEN DISCUSSED THINGS LIKE TAKING UP OUR LIVES !!! I really mean it. For both of us, our career is the single most important thing.
We had decided to wait for our next step in life like having a kid or putting in a big investment till we both at least have a job. Inspite of both of us having Masters degress from US universities, we are both suffering - me languishing in a filthy job and my wife on H4 - for the past 5 years !!! She is now more than 35 making it difficult to have kids etc...
I don't have the choice of going back to my home country due to many other personal reasons. I just don't know what to do... I am losing my sanity.
We had decided to wait for our next step in life like having a kid or putting in a big investment till we both at least have a job. Inspite of both of us having Masters degress from US universities, we are both suffering - me languishing in a filthy job and my wife on H4 - for the past 5 years !!! She is now more than 35 making it difficult to have kids etc...
I don't have the choice of going back to my home country due to many other personal reasons. I just don't know what to do... I am losing my sanity.
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InTheMoment
06-14 03:46 PM
Can you all tell which state you applied from?
As per the bispecialization phase III of USCIS, I-485 applicants from eastern and southern states are processed at SRC (TX) while western and northern at LIN (NE).
Let's verify whether this stands true...those who got their receipts can verify.
As per the bispecialization phase III of USCIS, I-485 applicants from eastern and southern states are processed at SRC (TX) while western and northern at LIN (NE).
Let's verify whether this stands true...those who got their receipts can verify.
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ashwinr
02-10 12:11 AM
Hi,
Mostly a passive observer. I just contributed $50 through Paypal.
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Mostly a passive observer. I just contributed $50 through Paypal.
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TheOmbudsman
10-25 09:10 PM
"The market has a way of regulating itself".
That is probably the most absurd thing said in this forum.
Purgan, please do some basic research and you will see you are plain wrong. There is no way you will see your dream coming true. Govenment intervention when it comes to regulate the influx of foreign labor is everywhere. It is controlled. You just allow less or more people coming in and that is fair. If you allow the gates of a third world country to open for good and flood this with programmers to a point where you would be making $10/hour, nobody sane wants to get downgraded to that level. Foreigners with a funny accent like us would be competing for jobs. Probably employers would love and exploited people in the third world countries would love that, but I have to tell you things don't work that way.
Similar polls were conducted by Zogby, CNN, etc. I outlined other evidences there. Only individuals with an open mind can read between the lines though.
when american's from such third rate schools are not getting jobs, do you seriously think foreigners with their funny accents and relatively poor English communication skills (I'm Indian and can tell you its still a second language to me) can get jobs??
The market has a way of regulating itself. As someone mentioned above, there were a a lot of H1 space available from 2001-03. But it never got filled because there were simply not enough jobs. Lets not try to set up govenment intervention here....let the free market decide....that is what made this country great.
btw, NumbersuSA, FAIR and other restrictionist organizations have zero credibility because they oppose even legal immigration.
That poll....don't impress me much...
That is probably the most absurd thing said in this forum.
Purgan, please do some basic research and you will see you are plain wrong. There is no way you will see your dream coming true. Govenment intervention when it comes to regulate the influx of foreign labor is everywhere. It is controlled. You just allow less or more people coming in and that is fair. If you allow the gates of a third world country to open for good and flood this with programmers to a point where you would be making $10/hour, nobody sane wants to get downgraded to that level. Foreigners with a funny accent like us would be competing for jobs. Probably employers would love and exploited people in the third world countries would love that, but I have to tell you things don't work that way.
Similar polls were conducted by Zogby, CNN, etc. I outlined other evidences there. Only individuals with an open mind can read between the lines though.
when american's from such third rate schools are not getting jobs, do you seriously think foreigners with their funny accents and relatively poor English communication skills (I'm Indian and can tell you its still a second language to me) can get jobs??
The market has a way of regulating itself. As someone mentioned above, there were a a lot of H1 space available from 2001-03. But it never got filled because there were simply not enough jobs. Lets not try to set up govenment intervention here....let the free market decide....that is what made this country great.
btw, NumbersuSA, FAIR and other restrictionist organizations have zero credibility because they oppose even legal immigration.
That poll....don't impress me much...
chanduv23
08-26 12:51 PM
May be not true, my case assgined to officer on june 29th and no news yet. But I wish Ski_dude12 good luck.
Did you try Ombudsman route? It may take a few more weeks, I guess it is worth a try.
Did you try Ombudsman route? It may take a few more weeks, I guess it is worth a try.
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